Saturday 15 October 2011

Why the Andhra people shouldn't give up !




In my last Blog, I've explained some of the profound Misconceptions about the "Telangana statehood demand". Though I'm satisfied with the response, I'm slightly remorseful that I've been a little harsh in some of my phrases. Nevertheless my Intentions were not to hurt the sentiments, but only to give a stronger opinion of mine.


However, there are some other unattended questions in my last blog, which are now frequently raised by Telangana people/politicians. The first half of this blog is about more such misconceptions.


In the second half of the blog, I will be explaining about the Andhra's point of view of Telangana demand, Like, How devastating it would be for the Andhra region if Telangana with Hyderabad is conceded. 


Indeed It's indispensable for all Telugu people to be more aware about the Pros and Cons of the Telangana issue, I urge you all to be more knowledgeable about "Why Telangana" or "why united AP". Don't just take a neutral stand, don't just leave it to fate.To say the least, the state bifurcation directly impacts the lives of 8 crore people of Andhra Pradesh. Please read this blog and share your knowledge.

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Quick Introspection :-

Pre-Independence ,the subcontinent of India has been ruled by many different ethnic groups, Princely kingdoms, British presidencies, Sultanates etc and each of them imposed their own administrative divisions on their respective regions. Rightafter the Union Of India is formed, The country saw violent internal demands, seeking new States. Not a few, but many of them.

To study the issue, to examine the feasibility, viability and validity of such demands, the government formed a committee SRC in 1956(States Re-organizing Committee). The committee gave  nod to some of these demands, leading to the formation of new states, mostly the linguistic states(having same common language) like Andhra Pradesh, Tamil Nadu , Kerala , Maharastra, Gujarat etc and the non-linguistic states were formed on administrative grounds like Bihar, Madhyapradesh, etc. However there were some declined demands like Gorkhaland, Vidarbha, Saurastra ,Telangana etc ( Refer to the section : list of aspiring states for more details).


These aspirants of new states, have agitated on a timely fashion to revive their hopes of a new state, but the government was Hell bent to carve out states on non-lingustic grounds and for the reasons better known to them. However it can be said without thinking that, since all the  linguistic demands were accepted, the only genuine reason on which a statehood demand sounds valid is administrative viability i.e for a smooth functioning of the administration of the region, a region which is far off from the capital city seeking a separate state is definitely valid, viable and welcomed by one and all. This is exactly the case with all the three new states that were formed during the BJP's tenure. In 2000 three new states were created; Chhattisgarh (1 November 2000) was created out of eastern Madhya PradeshUttaranchal (9 November 2000), since renamed Uttarakhand, was created out of the Hilly regions of northwest Uttar Pradesh, and Jharkhand (15 November 2000) was created out of the southern districts of Bihar

Currently there  are 20 plus new active demands for new states. Like Vidarbha, Gorkhaland, Saurastra , Telangana, Coorg, Bodoland etc. All these regions do seek a separate statehood , on the grounds a) Administrative viability b) Self governance , but the odd one among this list, the only exception is Telangana demand, as they seek Capital City Hyderabad which is well within Telangana.

However the Pro- Telangana agitators have their own explanations for their demand, such as uneven development, step-motherly treatment , self rule, water share etc. But , honestly all these points are not and will not be acceptable for a separate state. All that you can agitate is for having your demands met, about the injustices (if at all found true), but you just cannot agitate for a separate state showing these reasons, which I think aren't applicable at the first place.


Hyderabad is undoubtedly the heart of Andhra Pradesh, A mere saying that Hyderabad belongs to Telangana just because it is in Telangana is like people of Travancore asking for a share in the Padmanabaswamy Treasure just because it is found in Travancore Temple. 


Telangana people have to realize and agree the fact that, Andhraites have made a more-than-significant contribution to the Hyderabad. Needless to say, This is exactly why majority of the people of Andhra vehemently oppose Telangana formation.


The Loud and clear fact is that Andhra people have a legitimate share of their own and a righteous claim over the city of Hyderabad.




Telangana Misconceptions continued


Pre Andhra-Telangana Merger :-

Accusation :- The Telangana people were merged much against their wishes & what we are asking today is Just the Telangana state which existed before.

I reiterate one of my points, that The demand for a Telugu speaking state is not a new demand and has been pre dominant both during colonial British rule and during the atrocious Nizam's rule. The demand for the formation of a complete Telugu province in the name of Visalandhra in fact was
more overwhelming in Hyderabad state than in the Madras Presidency.

Historically, it can be traced that the demand for Visalandhra gained direction from the mid-19th century with the emergence of new classes - the peasantry, who assumed the torch
bearer ship of the movement. The rise of the peasant classes has been the result of a boom (or a spurt) in agriculture which became possible, a reality, due to availability of irrigation -the product of the construction of anicuts across the Godavari and the Krishna rivers. The irrigation schemes thus laid the basis for intensive cultivation of rice and other cash crops, generating consequently a substantial base for the emergence of the peasant classes. It was these emerging classes which
supported the idea of a separate province, Visalandhra, for the Telugu-speaking people, as they were perhaps the hardest hit if industrialists and capitalists expand and sprawl across.

Telangana region never existed as a state , at any point of time in the History, it never did. It was always a part of the Hyderabad State, untill in 1956. When it was trifurcated. Burgula Ramakrishna was the last and the only chief minister of the Hyderabad state.

Historically Telugu speaking people were united :-

Accusation :- Historically the Telangana people were separated and were never united !

The origins of an organised Telugu people dates back to the Satavahana rule of 236 B.C - 218 A.D. Until the advent of the British in the early-seventeenth century, Andhra came under the rule of several dynasties. The establishment of a factory in Masulipatnam in 1611heralds the beginning of colonial foothold in Andhra,strengthened with the death of Aurangzeb and the consequent disintegration of the Mughal Empire from 1707 onwards. The transfer of the  Circar districts to the Company in 1766 and the Rayalaseema by the Nizam in 1800, perhaps marks the beginning of the splitting of the Telugu people. The demand for uniting the Andhra people came up in the present century right from the beginning, when the partition of Bengal in 1905 made people firmly believe that the progress of a linguistic group would be hindered by their being placed under different administrations

Which means after the advent of Nizams, Andhraites were separated for a period 1800 – 1956 , roughly for around 160 years. The British didn't want to disturb the Hyderabad state as it perfectly suited it's way of functioning i.e "The divide and rule policy". It could not only divide the Telugus, but also kannadas and Marathas. Thus giving advantage to control the masses during freedom agitations.



So, Why Telangana is suppressed


Accussation :- Telangana people were "content"  before the formation of Andhra Pradesh ! Their current backwardness is only, exclusively because of Andhra politicians because of which they were left contended. 


The uneven development of Telangana consciousness is attributed to be a product of historical factors. The three principal regions of Andhra Pradesh - Coastal, Rayalaseema and Telangana districts are marked by different socio-economic backgrounds.



Since the two Telugu speaking regions SeemaAndhra and Telangana were separated for over a period of 180 years, over the due course of time they acquired their own  distinct social characteristics and administrations. 




Andhra regions remained under the British rule for these 180 years and were exposed to colonial modern development, have had access to the western English education but to the contrary Telangana people having lived under the exploiting feudal rule of the " Nizam of Hyderabad" , further subsided by Dora system ( where in the Dora is the sole owner of lands of an entire village, while the rest worked under him for a sack of grains) , Patel Patwari system etc.The economic progress was such that there was a a wide gap in regional development. With the rapid rise in the agrarian community in Andhra, the importance of education was widely known as early as the 1900s. The education awareness and access to the British built schools and colleges in Madras presidency, gave birth to many Industrialists and capitalists from Andhra regions.


The post-reorganization of states , where in British provinces and Non-British provinces were merged witnessed the same as that of Andhra and Telangana (like Gulbarga and Karnataka , Aurangabad and Maharastra) as aptly pointed out, the fusion between "people accustomed to life-styles appropriate to monsoon-dependent subsistence agriculture in non democratically ex-Princely states" on the one hand with "the industrially and agriculturally progressive people of ex-British provinces"  It is perhaps in this fusion that the brewing identity crisis and regional polarity can be located.


I know most of the Telangana people will scrap this " suppression story" as a cock and Bull story, well, I've a video proof, The award winning movie " Maa Bhoomi " portrays how the people of Telangana were slaved by  Nizams, Doras, Chota-Doras etc. The movie is based on a true life story of a Telanganaite in Siripuram , Nalgonda Dist. Some scenes are extremely touching and heart breaking. 


Ironically, My native town in Guntur Dist is hardly 50 kms away from Siripuram (Andhra region), After I've seen this movie, the first thing I did was, I've asked my GrandMom to watch it, and she says she never saw such kind of feudalistic suppression over the villagers. Honestly, She cried twice at 18:15 & 27:55 , the movie is touching and emotional. Do watch it. 


                                 Movie -  Maa Bhoomi (Telugu movies with English ST)





Surprisingly, the Telangana politicians claim that they are fighting for freedom now and they were better off before the mergal with Andhra in Nizam's rule ! Especially Nayani Narasmiha Reddy (TRS Politburo Member) who said this many times on TV. Can somebody tell me the average IQ of Telangana politicians ? Only DeshDrohis can say those words. 


 And yeah, the tacit relationship between Razakars and Doras in the movie, explains why the Doras in Telangana are Urdu speakers. ( That explains why KCR is good with Urdu).


The Dora system is abolished, The Patel-Patwari system is omitted (As late as1985 during TDP's regime).You're  electing your own MLAs and MPs, you are voting them, 50% of cabinet ministers in AP have always been from Telangana, Just because the CM is from Andhra/Seema does that mean you don't have freedom ?  From last 20 years, Chandra Babu Naidu, YS Reddy, Kiran Kumar Reddy are ruling , and these al hail from Rayalaseema, Does that mean Andhra people are freedom less ? Does that mean Rayalaseema has progressed during their Rule. No things remain indifferent, they will be indifferent even if Telangana CM rules for the next 20 years. Trust me, you can count me on that.


Sometimes I do feel that, If the Telanganaites blame Andhraites for the backwardness, they should be equally held responsible for the backwardness in Srikakulam, Vizayanagram, Kadapa, Anantapur, Kurnool, Chitoor ? Since any given time there are 50% of decision making cabinet minister from Telangana as well? 


1973 Jai Andhra Movement :-

Accusation :- The Jai Andhra movement in 1973 is a false movement only created to further supress the Telanganaites, but not for a separate Andhra desam. (I'm giving this detailed)

I've read and learned that the Telangana people think that ' Jai Andhra movement" is a swindling movement born only to mislead and beguile the prime minister Indira Gandhi.

They further claim that, The real intention behind this movement is only to abolish Mulki rules which otherwise should righteously belong to the Telanganaites. They think that the agitation took place only because Indira Gandhi was against separate state(s).

These are exactly the words of the " so called Idealogue of Telangana movement ". Prof Jayashankar, the man who is severly revered both for his brains and the arguments given by him for a separate state. Also been coveted with the title " Father of Telangana ". (watch the Video and subtitles)


I outrightedly deny this man and his preaching. This is a classic example of how this man blatantly distorted the facts and manipulated the statistics to polarize Telangana people. He says the budget of Telangana is far more than the Andhraites , that is why Andhra people were after Telangana, how came he says in the same video that Andhra people have "Money power" ? Isn't it the taxes come from people who are rich? .such a liar. 


 TRS party widely distributed a pamphlet to almost everyone in Telangana, reflecting the statics of Jobs, Literacy rates, schools, colleges, budget of Telangana, this very man is the script of such wrong numbers. A Telangana professor by Name " Nalamotu Chakravarthy" exposes this man more than anybody else, you should Google his name and find facts.


 I agree that it has now become a people's movement , however the question is that how it was built? How was the vendetta filled? What was the conduit ?

 I have purchased an article from New York Times to learn more about "Jai Andhra agitation", which is obviously is one of the most reliable source you can count upon.


An article about ' Jai Andhra Movement" published in Feb 1973 on New York Times. (Refer to the scanned 1973 paper). Which briefs that, The "Jai Andhra" agitation started in the month of January 1973 and lasted till the month of March 1973. In the course of the agitation (one of the biggest agitations post independence) 55 people were shot dead by the police in February alone. The famous politician Kakani Subramaniam defied the orders of Indira Gandhi, resigned from cabinet to join the agitation in Guntur. He was killed in police firing as well, but wrongly shown to the media as death due to "Heart Attack".  The city of Vijayawada which was the nerve center of the agitation, has been closed for 3 months.. All institutions were closed, Telephones connections were snapped, road ways were blocked etc. By the end of March the Death Toll was more than 150. (Remember these are all adults who were shot on roads.). While the Andhraites were agitating vociferously , the Telangana MLAS didn't resign in favour of separation , nor they supported the agitation completely.





Not a quest for the identity !

Accusation :- The Telangana people are in a quest of saving their identity , for which a separate state is a must.

Lately the Telangana movement has taken a new turn, the politicians are trying to save themselves from proven statics about exponential growth rate, when their claim of underdevlopment has been squashed by experts. To salvage , they say there is a dire need to protect the Culture, Traditions, Customs of the Telangana people.

The demand for separate Telangana state will not under any means fall under the argument that there is a need for the identity of the Telangana community to be preserved. People from all ethnic backgrounds live in Telangana, Telangana as such the whole region doesn't have a unique culture or a tradition, there are many differences within the region and among the people. I see four Major recognizable cultures within Telangana.

a) Mahboob Nagar is so closely linked to the people of Rayalaseema. Their eating habits, marriage customs, speaking slang is very much like a Typical Rayalaseema guy.

b) Khammam is adjacent to the coastal region of Andhra and hardly there are customs akin to core Telangana districts like Nizamabad, Karimnagar etc.

The whole of tribal belt in northern Telangana is completely different to the entire mainstream region.

My point is not just to point out the differences, I don't think that it is possible for a region compromising of 3.5 crores and having a single unique culture. 


The other argument we often see from KCR is that they speak a different version of Telugu ( Telugu with a little urdu) and their songs, cultures have been constantly ignored by Andhra media, cinema etc. This is not true. On a regular basis the Telangana is portrayed in Telugu movies.


                                            Batukamma Song in a Telugu movie in 1971



          






The same trend is even noted in other parts of Andhra Pradesh, like the People in Anantapur, Mahboob Nagar speak Telugu a little with Kannad mix, Infact most of them do speak two languages. In districts like Chitoor the Telugu slang sounds like that of Tamil, they do use some Tamil words.

This is an inevitable trend, the blend of languages do arise when you deviate from the main stream Telugu speaking land which is supposedly the Krishna District of Andhra Pradesh.

Will It open Pandora's box ?

Accusation :- If the Telangana demand is met, no new problems will arise. The demand is not against National interests as we aren't seeking a country.

We all are brought up with the notion that Country comes first and then anything else. Personally I firmly believe that even giving one such a state will open Pandora's box. Which infact will give a fresh momentum to the other similar statehood moments, similar separatist demands. Be it for the Good or the Bad.

The list of Aspiring states in India!

North india – Ladakh, Harit pradesh (Paschimanchal), Purvanchal, Bundelkhand, Sonanchal,central up ( awadh ), Mithilanchal ( mithila ) , Bhojpur, Vindhya pradesh

West India – Vidarbha, Marathwada, Konkan, Saurastra (saurasthra ), Kutch, Maru pradesh (desert land )

East India – Gorkhaland, Kamtapur, Bodoland, Karbi anglong, Koshal ( kosal ), Greater cooch behar

South India – Greater Rayalseema, Coastal Andhra , Telengana, kongu Nadu, coorg, North karnataka, Coastal karnataka and Coastal kerela.








However, the T politicians put up a brave front (specially TRS MLA Etela Rajendra) , saying  Telangana issue cannot be against the National interest, We are only asking for a state constitutionally and within the Indian country etc etc. Here is the reason why.

After the announcement  made by the union minister Chidambram in Favour of Telangana on Dec 9th , there was a sporadic unrest in the Gorkhaland and in the Vidarbha demanding to carve out a state on par with Telangana. Many people staged Dharnas and Rallies over night,  Isn't this a fresh momentum?  Some leaders went on a hunger strike on the very next day.Such a development might cause a new stir among new regions and which might soon become a law and order issue!


If Andhra Pradesh is divided it would be the first Linguistic state to be divided in India, which might spurn off many such demands.

Note:- The uniqueness of the Telangana demand is that, there is no other aspiring state except Telangana which also wants a capital city.( Check the Map, the list of aspiring states are far off from the capital city)




 Only four Andhra Investors are blocking Telangana


Accusation :-  There are only 4 investors (probably L. Rajgopal, K .S Rao, Subarami Reddy, R . Samba Siva rao) behind , United AP movement and only to shield their wealth in Hyderabad and all the rest of the people from Andhra are okay with a separate Telangana as they are seeking their own capital. 





First of all " my ass " we need a new capital, please don't decide what we want and please stop talking on our behalf as if you read our minds. Second of all I don't know why you have chosen the number  " 4 ".


I'm surprised, why only four, there are thousands of investors from Andhra in Hyderabad, If it is a concern to these four it should obviously be a concern to the rest as well. They've  scooped down to a level to proclaim that United AP movement is an artificial movement and only few goons are behind this movement besides they agitate only when the Telangana people agitate. 


For that matter, the real agitators in 2009 Osmania University were not students, the agitation was initially built by Naxals. I mean look at those people during the 2009 agitation, aren't they old enough not to be students? Even the research students in US won't be that old. Clearly the Naxals have been inflicting the Telangana agitation timely, Now it slowly went into the hands of common people.


Every one out of Ten families in Andhra is settled in Hyderabad and the remaining 9 families are dependent in Hyderabad in some or the other way. Of course there will be a phobia and certain amount of scare, if they are told overnight that " Hyderabad is not yours anymore". It's the students who would turn out to be the biggest losers more than anybody else out of this. so, Naturally all of these will agitate and bring an indirect pressure via politicians.


Here is my answer to why do they don't agitate on their own, why only after the Telangana agitation. Because of the only reason that, as long as there is no Telangana agitation it's  evident that the state will be in the status-Quo which means united. 


The repercussions of course are directly related to the developments in Telangana.


Clearly all the people of Andhra, Rayalaseema are the stakeholders of the city of Hyderabad, their tax money was used in building the Hyderabad infrastructure, be it the flyovers, outer ring road etc. So nobody can just say your time is over "you will have to leave the city" etc . 





600 People have died for Telangana cause !

Accusation :-  600 people have died cause of the delay in the formation of Telangana, How many more you want to die.

It's a sad thing, people are resorting to the extreme step, I become very sad, everytime I see a Teenage suicide dying for the Telangana demand. Specially the Srikanth Chary's incident ! Like anyone else I condemn such steps.


                                


For an issue as small as 800 acres of illegal land owned by YSR ,there was a vociferous debate in assembly ,Intense altercations, Walking out, Barging, Boycotting assembly, etc. over here we are talking of diving the state !! Did the TRS ever  handle it democratically? Did they ever discuss the For &  Against points of this statehood demand in issue? No they didn't , They just came onto roads. Even the 2001 formed states have discussed in assembly and a consensus was formed in the Assembly. But here we are talking about an aspiring state with Hyderabad. Not even for a second they thought of convincing the Andhraites, straightaway  separatists demand a state ? 


And yes! the 600 odd people who have committed suicides, wait no , the 600 people have been killed by KCR, I believe in this. Tell me, If there was no such thing like TRS, would these people die? Remember there was no single Death for Telangana from 1970 - 2009. Why suddenly so many have taken the extreme step in last two years?  Only because they were emotionally charged by TRS. Had the TRS employed the parliamentary method of arguing and convincing in Lok Sabha, Rajya Sabha and in state Assembly. They wouldn't have died, certainly not. 



Please don't blame other's for death. please stop saying Andhraites killed these, CBN killed these etc.



Now the Telangana politicians say 600 people have died, so give us Telangana ! Eh ! First of all they've died only because of these politicians.  Certainly many Hate speeches were given by KCR himself and he did say likesuicide" is an option. " Even if these tender minds have died, that doesn't mean that the demands of politicians are met.  


I've still not come across a single valid reason about why the state needs to be bifurcated, the T politicians cannot fool everyone by fudging statistics and history, Not everyone. why should we Andhraites bow to such people and such agitations ? 



Why the People of Andhra Shouldn't give up !


  • Let's not unlearn the Madras lessons :-

When the Telugu speaking people wanted a separate state out of Madras Presidency (of course on Linguistic grounds!) they were asked to sacrifice. They were asked to give up the Madras city. Despite the fact that the city has been geographically and historically been a part of the Andhra region.


Madras City earlier known as the Chennapatnam, first formed in 1639, when a Telugu King Damerla Venkadri Nayudu granted the British, permission to build a factory and warehouse for their trading enterprises. A year later, the British built Fort St George, which became the nucleus of the growing colonial city.


As the population kept on growing, the city became an indivisible mixture of Tamil and Telugu cultures. In 1953 the city of Madras compromised 58% of Telugus, Most of the industrial development is widely credited to the Andhraites. It was difficult to determine who should possess it. Panagal raja a Tamilian and the Chief Minister of the Madras Presidency in the early 1920s said that the Cooum River should be kept as a boundary, giving the northern portion to the Andhras and the southern portion to the Tamils. In 1928, Sir C. Sankaran Nair sent a report to the Central Council discussing why Madras does not belong to the Tamils. The increasing political dominance of the Tamils from early 1920s at both Central and State level politics caused Madras to remain in the Tamil region. According to the JPC report (Jawahar Lal Nehru, Bhogaraju Pattabhi Sitaramayya, C. Rajagopalachari)  Telugu people should leave Madras if they want a separate Andhra state.


                                           River Cooum separating North and South Madras









In order to safe guard the interests of the Andhra people in Madras state, there was a popular movement called " Madras Manade" (Madras is ours) agitating for the city of Madras. Personally I believe that Madras should have gone to the Telugu speaking people and that too to the Rayalaseema Region as it's capital. Indeed in 1953 there was an agitation in Rayalaseema demanding for a separate state with Madras as it's capital. However these cracks among the Telugu people of Madras state were later bridged by Pattabhi Sitaramaiah. 

Cause of it's coastal location and the importance for the sea trade then, Chenna Patanam was more and more sought after by the people of all the three regions i.e Andhra region, Tamil region and Kannad region. With in no time it went onto become the 4th largest city in the British Raj. Even today it is the 4th biggest city.

Rest is History, the travails of Andhra people after loosing the Madras city are crystal clear, we didn't have any up-to-the-mark infrastructure for a capital city among the two-tier cities and towns. All the rest were far away from the qualities of a Capital city. In 1953 they have decided Kurnool as the capital of the Andhra region, partly to soothen the Rayalaseema statehood demand. However the Judiciary was run from Guntur, Administration from Kurnool etc. The people couldn't get the share of Taxes being paid by the Telugus in Madras city, as a result the newly formed state was on a budget deficit.


Do you want to see the same thing again, despite not of your fault ? Hell no. 



  • Illogical stance on Hyderabad.

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Both for the Andhraites and Telanganaites , the bone of contention is Hyderabad. As long as the Telangana people won't accept the fact that the Andhra people have been instrumental in Hyderabad's modern development with the Taxes of Andhraites and as long as they don't give up their illogical explanation that Hyderabad was already developed by Nizam's, look at our palaces etc. There is no point in heeding to the demands of Telangana people. 


The credit for the much boasted olden development of Hyderabad won't entirely go to Telangana , but only a part of it, a quarter of it. This is because of the Taxes paid by their ancestors were much less when compared to the taxes paid by their counterparts of erstwhile Hyderabad state, a mere 25 - 30% taxes came from the working class of Telangana and 75 -80 % came from Aurangabad and Gulbarga. Without a doubt the resources, manpower of the entire region of Hyderabad state were used/exploited to build the city of Hyderabad. Even the Non Telangana , Non Andhra played a crucial role in building the old and the modern Hyderabad.


The old palaces, museums built by Nizams are not giving any employment, aren't contributing to the Taxes. The development between 1998 - 2010 is what gave a brand new image for Hyderabad. 

Andhraites can't Just let the city of Hyderabad go away to Telangana. "No matter what" . In the core of the city, 50% people are from the Andhra region, only as we progress towards the outskirts we see an increase in the percentage of Telanganaites.

The T politicians should come out and openly embrace the fact that Hyderabad just can't be taken away by the agitation, If freedom, self rule is what you're after, I guess sharing Hyderabad city and the revenue shouldn't be an issue.


I dare Telangana agitators to seek an expert International commission to evaluate the factual contributions to the city of Hyderabad by Telangana and Non Telangana people. My estimated guess is that, overally for what the city of Hyderabad stands today, the Telanganaites would have contributed around 10-15 %. The rest has come from Non – Telangana people, be it Andhraites, Kannadigas, Marthas etc.


  • Andhra without Hyderabad :-



 Andhra and Rayalaseema without Hyderabad is equally unimaginable as Telangana without Hyderabad. For both the regions, Hyderabad is vital. Of course, Telangana  needs it a little more desperately though.


The very thought that Andhra people going back to square one, building the capital all over again from scratch is devastating. This is not the first time it has happened, it's been happening from hundreds of years. During the 300 odd years of Vijayanagar empire rule the capital  was out of Andhra, during the Kakatiya period the capital was in Warangal, during the British it was Madras. In all the cases certainly Andhras were instrumental in shaping up the capital, but never really they cared for the capital mostly the divisions were amicable. Similarly the Andhraites didn't care for Hyderabad in 1956, 1969. But not anymore, now, It's so important that they have their own fair share of Hyderabad.


If Andhraites were deprived of Hyderabad (not that I want) , the capital for Andhra would be either Kurnool or Ongole, though there are better cities like Vizag, Vijayawada they not be preferred on administrative purposes. Let me illustrate how pathetic infrastructure these cities and towns have with respect to Hyderabad, The total number of flyovers in Hyderabad are 42 and in the entire rest of AP there are two. One in Vizag and the other in Vijaywada. This gives you a rough idea how badly these cities/towns are lagging behind.


I bet it will take atleast another 30 years to develop half as much that of today's Hyderabad. ( I reckon the greedy politicians will further gulp up all the contracts and make them slow down.)


Don't trust in the packages as such , they all are a joke.


A true lesson from Chattisgarh state. 


When Madhya Pradesh was bifurcated, a new state " Chattisgarh"  was formed.
Raipur was made as the new capital and the then central Govt led by BJP gave a package to develop the Capital city, for building high court, secretariat , Municipal offices etc.(90 such buildings). The BJP government gave a paltry Rs 1200 crores , When the Madhya Pradesh Government invited bids for the new High Court, the starting bid by L&T was Rs 450 Crores ( including land and construction). What will that package be useful for? I'm trying to give a picture of bad the situation will be if a new capital is asked to develop from scratch. 


Let's assume a situation where in, Andhra becomes a new state with Kurnool as the capital. We will think things are settled for once and for all. Perpetually, Kurnool makes it big and we all are in a harmony. What is the guarantee that a greedy politician who is denied of some " political fortune" doesn't start a party like RRS (Rayalaseema Rastra samiti ) only to step up on his political ladder ? Will Andhraites have to be back-stabbed forever ? This is a never ending process. It stopped after the linguistic organization of states, Andhra Pradesh was formed and that should be the end of it. 


I repeat, "the loss of Hyderabad to Andhraites will be irreplaceable".






  • Telangana movement and the KCR show !



 Let's take a brief recap of the movement and the stalwart(s) running show.


 The current Telangana Movement is an unprecedented movement which turned into an uprising only in late 2009. I strongly reject the claims that it has been an immemorial wish of people of Telangana from 60 years etc. Now that it has taken in  the form of protests of various types, including marches and hunger strikes , as well as vandalism of government property and rioting shops, in a sustained civil resistance. 


Remember, After KCR formed a splinter group of TDP, KCR has raked up the separate Statehood demand in early 2000s, and has been fighting the issue since then. Sources say, KCR was the most corrupt cabinet minister, upon several complaints he was demoted to a Dy Speaker post  by Chandra Babu Naidu, where in there is no scope of corruption. This is the sole cause of rebelling the Party. (Sonia Gandhi, YSR saw an incredible oppurtunity in this to weaken the invincible TDP in Telangana, so later she started supporting KCR financially, rest is history. How KCR prostrated to Sonia, how she gave him a Cabinet post etc.


( Personally I'm also rebellious in nature,  I like KCR for this rebelling for a simple state cabinet minister to get a Central Cabinet post. Kudos KCR for being a successful rebellion ! )


The momentum was never this deep in the masses till 9 years after he launched his party, only during the elections he used this so called " Telangana sentiment"  to garner votes. However KCR's hunger strike in dec 2009 gave a fresh momentum and the statehood demand slowly started creeping into the minds of people.  To all those who think KCR is a man of values. Watch this shell-shocking footage. Truly a video speaks a million words.


                                        KCR in 1996 Assembly elections. 



                                

 Summaries of the video  :- 

  •  He clearly mentioned that the vacant Jobs in Telangana should be given to anyone in the entire state.  Which means he himself is against 610 GO just 3 years before he flouted TRS.
  •  Repeatedly he used the word " us" (manam). Which means he had no issue With Andhra Pradesh state untill 1996.
  •  His slang is way different from his contemporary slang. In 1996, pretty much his slang Andhra Telugu, it's clear that he started faking Telangana Telugu accent from last few years.
  • It's apparent that, he was happy as a minister and as in the united AP (1996) . Only when he was deprived of the post he saw Telangana burning. 



  • Over night second class citizens.

It's think I can forsee that scenario already, the movement the central Government buckles to the ploys of the Telangana agitators and concedes the state of Telangana with Hyderabad, the 4 million Andhra people living in and around Hyderabad will be morally underwhelmed, you know what I mean? It's the feeling you get like you've lost something, you're not in your own capital, you're in an a new place etc. Emotionally , things will change drastically.




Like visualize, When you're in a busy place, say, you're travelling in a bus and you speak in an Andhra slang on a phone or with someone else. Imagine the feeling you get with the stares, you'll undoubtedly be given a second rated " look down" kind of look. Things will change.





  •  Pressure on Andhra Entrepreneurs to give up

I seriously think that, The whole agitation is to put a check to the Andhra Entrepreneurs. Don't you think so? Talk to any agitator, he will say " Andhra investors have grabbed our Hyderabad lands, they have looted our resources". They further think that Andhra entrepreneurs like L.Rajgopal , K. Sambasiva Rao, T.Subba Rami Reddy, have come a long way only after looting the resources of Telangana. Hell !  God enlighten them. 


PS :- please Google their companies, find the links, read about the description. 

Let me tell you briefly how people make it big. Most of these Entrepreneurs from the state of Andhra Pradesh are from the four coastal districts krishna, Guntur, East & West Godavari. Guess why? Cause the people from these regions come from a rich agrarian background, the lands owned by them are incredibly fertile. This means they were almost a generation ahead in The educational awareness, The Entrepeneurship spirit , The westernization etc.Which obviously is not the case with the people from Rayalaseema and Telangana. ( Read my last blog for more about this)

Common don't think that today's Big companies have grown over night. That is definitely not the case with most of them, maybe with all of them. Either they were already built by the ancestors and which were later expanded and modernized by the current owners, or they have themselves made it from step one i.e building it from scratch and then making it big.

And yes! Like i've said it in my last blog why Andhra based companies have been partial towards the Andhra people in recruiting. I think their daily livelihood of most (if not all) of them will be at stake.



  • Huge loss of Jobs.

Hypothetically, if the Telangana state with Hyderabad is formed, then the odds are so slim that the " righteously " owned Jobs of the Andhraites are retained. Be it in the Government sector, Public sector or the self employed ones.




The Public sector Jobs in and around Hyderabad will have to be either removed or transferred to Andhra. There is no way that the same people can retain the same Jobs in Telangana, I'm sure they will not be sacked because most of them infact working in Hyderabad only on behalf of a posting in Andhra , which means their work is related to a region in Andhra but the place of work is in Hyderabad ( I've explained more about this in my last post). The figures are anything in between 2-3 lakhs
The scenario for the Private sector would be mixed, though the Government cannot bring direct formal rules to increase the localities share of Jobs, They will do all they can to bring pressure from the backdoors.

Remember there are lots of central government Jobs in Hyderabad, like BHEL, DRDO, ISRAT, NFC , CCMB etc. All these Central organisations have come to Andhra Pradesh, I am damn sure , they wouldn't have come to Telangana if it were a separate state since 1956. For the only reason that there would be a lack of skilled people.


 The total Jobs created by IT companies in and around Hyderabad would be roughly 1 million. Out of these Andhra/Seema people own around 7-8 lakh Jobs, Telangana people own around 75k-1.25k Jobs, other Indians own around 2-3 lakh Jobs. Now tell me, why are the Telangana people not competing with Jobs in here? Is it like the MNC's like Microsoft,  Oracle etc are also against Telangana favoring Andhraites? 


  •  Huge Income Loss to the Andhra

Hyderabad's economy has a broad industrial base in the automobile, computer, technology, hardware manufacturing and healthcare industries. The city is India’s fourth largest exporter of software, information technology (IT) and information-technology-enabled services (ITES). A major chunk of India’s Pharmacy manufacturing industry is based in and around the city. Hyderabad Zone contributes 45 per cent of the State’s GDP.

In my earlier post,I have said that majority of the industries are owned and controlled by the people from Andhra Region, the house-hold taxes comes mostly from the localities habituated by the people from the Andhra region. For instance the Tax collection percentage from the Muslim dominated community stands to a mere 15%.





A whopping 75-80% of the city's GDP is contributed by the people from the Andhra region. The figure will remain unchanged even if the state of Telangana is formed, which means this Tax share goes into the account of Telangana which otherwise should have been used evenly through out the state.


For example :- The total Passenger volume of GMR International Airport in Hyderabad is 7,634,165, by optimistic standards the passengers from Andhra , seema would be around 5 million. On an average for a to and fro trip , a passenger pays a tax of around Rs 1500 ( Airport tax, Toll etc). The total taxes would be around Rs 7,500 million, which will obviously will go into Telangana's kitty ! I'm not counting the cargo taxes. What about the huge no of pharma, Bio, IT, construction, companies owned by Andhraites? All these taxes should belong to the entire state.



I've seen Corporators and Sarpanchs fighting for a meare monetory sanctions of about Rs 2 lakhs ,3 lakhs. Here we're talking about an amount Rs 15,000 - 20,000 crores. Yes that is the money that Andhraites would still be paying in the form of Taxes to the Telangana state per annum. Don't you think it is unfair and unjustifiable ?



  • Hard to attract new companies.

When the Hyderabad ship sinks, it will also pull down millions of Andhraites and their investments.


If Telangana state with Hyderabad is formed inevitable, Hardly any investor will bother to think about Hyderabad. Don't you think so ? Remember, The single most important factor for any key investor to do a business is to have an easy availability of " skilled people and abundant resources" . The classic example is the plummeting land prices in Hyderabad ,today they have fallen down to half of their value in 2008, which should be the other way around. 


 Till the year 2009, Why is it the software Companies not interested in going to Madhya Pradesh, Uttar Padesh, Bihar, North Eastern states? Why only Hyderabad, Chennai, Banglore?. Because there were skilled people in AP and  I think everyone knows from which part of AP skilled people are employed.  Yeah! No prizes for guessing.

I mean it's not just the Telangana people who will be at the receiving end, even the Non-Telanganaites,especially the Andhraites followed by Gujaratis, Marathis and all those who have invested in the city of Hyderabad, in the form of Real estates, Property acquisitions, Infrastructure investments etc, their profits will be at stake. Trust me, Once this happens, the development will almost come to a stand still. It will remain unchanged for a decade. 

If you were to go by the current statics, most of the Real estate ventures, Property Contracts, infrastructure contracts are held by the people of Andhra, All these have to suffer, remember it's not just a blow a few business big shots, but to all the employees of these organizations.


 Tough Time for relocating Andhraites !

For those Andhraites who are left with the only option to relocate or those who wish to relocate, will have to deal with this Herculean Task. Let me tell you why.

There are around 1 million families in Hyderabad whose roots are traced to Coastal Andhra or Rayalaseema. These one million families hold around 1.2 – 1.3 million Jobs in the City of Hyderabad. Which includes the Private sector, Public Sector and some entrepreneurs.








If not all , many of them will have to relocate to the new capital.It will be so hard for them to move out of a safe heaven and start building a new life, new home from scratch. Among all the Job holders, the government employees will be the hardest hit. They have completely adopted themselves to the Hyderabadi environment,their children, their properties etc. It's not an easy task to abruptly deal with a new place . Despite the fact that, most of them have snapped their ancestral heritage, be it the native village, family properties etc.

It will be like throwing yourself into an alien location. You know what I mean?


My personal solution :- I strongly feel that, there is no point in keeping the state united or maintaining the Status Quo. Some sort of a solution should be given which is acceptable by most of the stakeholders. The chances in future that a similar demand for Rayalaseema region cannot be ruled out like the one in 1953. So the division should be in such a way that  Two districts from Telangana ( Khammam, Nalagonda) should be merged with Andhra Pradesh and Two districts from Rayalaseema (Anantapur, Kurnool) should be merged with Telangana to form Telangana pradesh , so that Hyderabad is in the borders of both the states. Hyderabad should be made as a common capital city with 60% revenue to Telangana and 40% revenue to Andhra. On the lines of Chandigarh. This way it might be acceptable by Andhraites and partly by Telanganaites. ( This is just what I think, might not be feasible though)


Bottomline :-  Telangana people are agitating for a separate state, I am totally fine with that, as long as they do it democratically. I also understand that the movement has become a mass movement with the popular support from almost all the corners of the region. But I can't take it for a second with the Telangana people claiming that they've built Hyderabad with " The sweat, The blood" of their ancestors. Facts are Facts about Hyderabad and the GDP of Hyderabad. As long as the Telangana people don't compromise and come to an amicable agreement about this, the agitation will be meaningless and helpless. The so called unfair job share, uneven water share, biased  development of Telangana can be mended with will, but it will irrevocable for the Andhra people if they loose Hyderabad.

61 comments:

  1. this is a thought provoking analysis, I truly admire the writers interest in gathering the facts and giving a view from andhra angle, in this charged atmosphere i am not sure mob mentality which has been built up by politicians, intellectuals, artists, govt servants regarding telangana, will want to sit and have a balanced view. But one day they have to come and sit for talks, may be then they will understand that they should go through a mid path or entirely preach for status quo.

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  2. Dear MR. Misconception ,
    where were you when telangana demand was supported and was existing in congress election manifesto of 2004 ? were u still in school ??? why didnt any andhra friends oppose at that time ? can you post the blog that you written at that time opposing that ? ohh yaa.. i get it.. u didnt care at that time ...!!

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    1. Did you ask for it? Why TRS miserably failed everytime till 2009? Why people didn't vote for it? Every coin has two sides.

      Trs finally could convince majority of Telangana people about the "Mosam, Kutra, Looti" etc and to be frank they almost convinced me till I read this blog. I still won't say Telangana movement doesn't have any valid points but the point is underdeveloped aread in Seema and andhra too have valid points.

      Politicians especially YSR has looted entire AP not just Telangana. And this is a growing trend throughout India in last 10-15 yrs. Atleast in Telangana they confined to in and around Hyderabad(I stand corrected). Most of the seashore is sold, Rayalaseema and karnataka mines were gifted to Gali. Atleast telangana coal mines are in hands of Govt.

      Finally solution to one issue shouldn't create a new issue.

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  3. You are one generation behind to write these type of things.

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  4. The post main focus was on govt jobs transferring to other regions. I dont think that gonna happen. Any govt employee can go to court if his grade is downgraded without proper reason or is removed from the post.
    The belief of separate telangana seekers that new jobs will be formed is totally a myth.

    Great way of putting information. Even better than SKC i should say.I super liked the KCR part :P .. i hope separate telangana seekers realise their hypocrisy.

    All those statistics the separate telangana seekers publish are non sense if closely looked.They include hyd for revenue generation but not for revenue expenditure and certainly not for the educational facilities present and employment opportunities present.

    This movement has completed the stages of Brainwashing, Mass Hysteria , Self Desolation and finally will self destruct.

    There is no movement in the history which has won with such dubious claims.

    In the meantime, people should sit down and sort down the actual differences.Fight to solve the indifferences , everyone will support.

    PS: do not allow anonymous comments to be posted.They degrade the quality of the debate in comments.
    And for that Anonymous guy , Congress manifesto or the UPA manifesto says " second src commission " and not telangana in 2004. In 2009, there was not even mention of that.

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  5. @vams21 Yes, ofcourse there will no threat to Govt jobs. but they will have to relocate. When they will relocate that will be a challenging task to you know settle down in a new city.

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  6. @anonymous. Someone said why didn't we agitate when congress and TDP when Telangana was included in the manifesto.

    a) Did the parties take my views before they did? Who are they to do? we the people are stakeholders.
    b) No one knows it would go this wild. Then why didn't you all vote for TRS ? when it was for TG state only ? why only 3.45% votes? for that same reason I haven't agitated.

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  7. @Anon who was asking about manifestio in 2004

    Can you show me the language in the cong manifesto which shows that Telangana will be granted??

    TRS agreed in writing that they will abide by SRC2 not the bifurcation on KCR's whims and fancies

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  8. any one who is with telangana or non-telangana gotta see this

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  9. any one who is with telangana or non-telangana gotta see this


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=V-iPAzDNB6s#!

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  10. CONTD:
    "Will it open a pandora box?"- Mr. Misconceptions Sir, can you tell me from when are all these demands? Why didn't these demands become any problem when 3 new states were created in 2000-01? If telangana, is not formed does that stop others from demanding statehood?

    "If Andhra Pradesh is divided it would be the first Linguistic state to be divided in India, which might spurn off many such demands" - This in fact had happened and 12 new states were formed then and still some demands(among which you stated) are based on linguistic basis. You are responsible for the creation of 12 new states and how come you blame us that creation of telangana is like a opening a pandora box?? You need to have some ethics too..

    Why didn't you people protest when congress supported the separation of telangana in 2004 elections(had it as agenda in its CMP and not SRC(as one of our frnds commented)., even if src is constituted what stops it from declaring statehood for telangana, if any new state has to be created., it is telangana which is to be done first)., why didn't you oppose when almost all the major political parties(TDP, PRP, INC) supported the formation of telangana? Even on 07 dec 09, the so called heads of the parties were in favor of statehood, why didn't you protest then? And when the declaration comes on 09 dec 09, everyone takes a U-turn shoeing your cunning nature.


    You've talked about kcr., if start writing about your leaders Lagadapati, rayapati, cbn, jagan, chiru etc.. it will take pages.

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  11. CONTD:

    "Illogical stance on Hyderabad" - the stance of andhraites on hyderabad is illogical. You can stay in other's home as tenants., but you should not try to become its owners.
    "à°¦ుà°¨్à°¨ేà°µాà°¡ిà°¦ి à°­ూà°®ి à°…à°¯ినప్à°ªుà°¡ు , à°ªంà°¡ిఇచేà°µాà°¡ిà°¦ి à°ªంà°Ÿ à°…à°¯ినప్à°ªుà°¡ు , à°…à°¬ిà°µృà°¦్à°¦ి à°šేà°¸ేà°µాà°¡ిà°¦ి పట్à°¨ం à°Žంà°¦ుà°•ు à°•ాà°¦ు?" - à°¦ుà°¨్à°¨ే à°µాà°¡ిà°¦ే à°­ూà°®ి, à°•ాà°¨ీ à°† à°­ూà°®ి à°®ాà°¤్à°°à°®ె à°°ైà°¤ుà°¦ి, à°Šà°°ు à°®ొà°¤్à°¤ం à°¨ాà°¦ే à°…ంà°Ÿే ఎవరూ à°’à°ª్à°ªుà°•ోà°°ు.
    à°ªంà°Ÿ à°ªంà°¡ింà°šేà°Ÿà°ª్à°ªుà°¡ు, à°¨ా à°­ూà°®ిà°²ోà°¨ుంà°¡ి à°¨ీà°³్à°³ు పక్à°• à°ªొà°²ం à°²ోà°•ి à°µెà°³్à°³ాà°¯ి à°•ాబట్à°Ÿి పక్à°• à°ªొà°²ంà°²ోà°¨ి à°ªంà°Ÿ à°•ూà°¡ా à°¨ాà°•ే à°šెంà°¦ాà°²ి à°…ంà°Ÿే à°…à°¦ి à°®ూà°°్à°–à°¤్à°µం.
    There are many andhraites in bangalore too.. can you say that they are contributing to the GDP of bangalore and that the taxes they pay should be spent in andhra? There are many north indians in hyderabad too, will anyone accept if they say that they're paying taxes and the revenue from the should be spent in their hometowns? its as simple as that..
    Andhraites came to hyderabad in search of opportunities because it is a metro, just as they went to bangalore or chennai or any other place. No one comes to hyderabad to develop it or just because it is a capital. If capital is the reason, they should first go to national capital New Delhi.

    You people did not have facilities in the then capital kurnool, you are so lazy and selfish that you couldn't develop a capital for yourself and came to hyderabad. The time has come now, pull your shocks to develop your capital.

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  12. CONTD:
    "Till the year 2009, Why is it the software Companies not interested in going to Madhya Pradesh, Uttar Padesh, Bihar, North Eastern states? Why only Hyderabad, Chennai, Banglore?"
    Simple, because its a metro and cost of living is reasonable compared to other metros, and the city is well built and has good facilities and infrastructure.
    Even Kerela,Gujrat have skilled labour but why is that IT is not concentrated there?

    'Rome cannot be built in a day'. Hyderabad was built by the effort of people of hyderabad state for 500years to make it 5th biggest city, you people couldn't even take it up by one place and claim you developed it.. heights of selfishness.

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  13. awesome job in getting the facts ...but i am not surprised at the comments from pro-telanganaites as they are blinded now...they need to ask their leaders to just show one clear 'plan' on how separate state will improve telangana region instead of just giving wague generalized statements like more jobs, free education, n all crap... not even single telangana leader was able make a proper analysis about pro n cons of the situation or was able to present a logical plan to build state...they should ask their own regional telangana ministers in power - why was there no improvement in their areas when they were being elected year after year instead of dreaming on to the false promises that they will start working towards improving after separate state is formed... if anyone really wants to improve a place they could have done it..but nobody did it till now except CBN who developed hyderabad (which btw is a part of telangana)... CBN didn't promote/develop rayalaseema or andhra regions because he was from seema but he developed hyderabad(part of telangana)..he was the CM he could have promoted/influenzed to build vizag or anyother place.. but he built hyderabad. his plan was to grow economically(IT n other projects) and then use the money to build the state evenly...but people with half knowledge(or no knowledge) have maligned him ...

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  14. Can't help feeling terrible as an Andhraite reading this. Thanks for your loyalty, commitment and efforts. And painstaking efforts to bring this to our notice.

    Aditya: you are an idiot. If I am living in Delhi and my house is in Delhi and I am not under threat from Delhiites or under the belief that I am TENANT on their premises, then I have no objection paying taxes to them. But if Delhiites are going to tell me that listen: you are here due to OUR hospitality and we have a right to kick you out whenever we wish, but we don't give a damn if your taxes are coming to us, I will want to Kick the Delhiite's ass...as I want to kick yours.

    Vamsi: you are absolutely right on Brainwashing, mass hysteria etc...but you are wrong that such things don't win. Pakistan was a victory of similar lunacy..and if Pakistan is any indicator, we know the future of Hyderabad...

    I am unable to digest that fellow Telugus have the mentality of brutes. I am unable to believe this agitation. JUSTICE? My foot, this is hooligans going astray...

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  15. I really appreciate the effort and research..good job..you have done a lot of research in doing this which is commendable and I also salute you for your thought of putting it into a blog and spreading the awareness in public.. I have never any blog this big.. but i spent some time for this..just cos m also a part of it.. :)
    I would always support united Andhra

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    1. I also appreciate your effort regarding this topic
      Also look here WhatsApp status

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  16. wow... great research bhayya.. u did a good job.. 4 magazines, 3 news papers, 2 movies.. anni kalipi oka artical.. wow masth ga present chesav bhayya.. i will give u one suggestion.. sakshi news paper lo editor ga join ayipo.. becoz andulo ilanti articals e publish cheyali kada..

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  17. why were 3 posts of "common mam of telangana " were deleted????

    this is how you suppress truth..

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  18. Excellent Article ..keep it up

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  20. I will agree completely with Aditya's Comments.He is true.

    Saroja: Chudu papa, If we started using slang or Vulgarity in the comments to you, it might be "worse than the worst" you heard in your entire life...

    Look How maturely Aditya Commented....
    and you ....idiot,ass,asshole antu Rasavu.

    Saroja:
    If I start commenting like Pussy,whore,puku,bitch,slut.... like that,are u able to digest such vulgarity???

    Hey Mr.Misconception... Could you read this blog first of all

    http://glorious-telangana.blogspot.in/

    I have counters and 100% legitimate answers for each and every point you raised or mentioned in your blog.I will come up with answers in my blog as soon as possible

    Bye.... Bye....

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  21. even madurai ruled by telugu nayak kings then madurai is belongs to AP by your own logic. see boss chittor and Tirupathi belongs to Tamil nadu from older times. Telenga region ruled by bhamini sultans, then it belongs to maharaastra do u agree.

    fool tamils loose both chittor and Tirupathi because of dravida maya.

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  22. Good attempt to belittle the legitimate aspiration of Telangana people. Mere suggestions, hollow arguments, false denials that Telangana has not been looted, no jobs were looted, no funds were looted, no river waters were looted, no denials of positions for Telangana people every argument of yours has fallen flat. Historically Telangana and Andhra were not united even during the rule of Krishnadevarayalu. For a very brief spell say for 50 years nayaks of both regions were united to take on the powerful enemy. Even that so called unity was shortlived. I will give you a very glaring fact to drive my home my point. According to District Collector's report in 2005 more than 77% of notified ayacut of major irrigation projects is in Andhra whereas only 22.5% of the ayacut is in Telangana. The share of Andhra has gone up with Handri Neeva when 6,00,000 acres has been added to Andhra's ayacut. Telangana state is inevitable. Efforts of people like the above author may not work beyond 2014 elections. JAI TELANGANA

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  23. Funny post by mr.misconception, i cant beleive very few people actually buy this kinda nonsense. I am glad there is a new telangana a release to the great thelangana people from such misconception and roamer makers. Victory for the sincere and honest ones. Inevitable. Telengana deserves much more respect than what this author gives, what the author does is called passive disrespect.

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  24. First of all, my appreciation to you for the homework you have done. Armed with few facts and numbers you made an attempt to distort the truth to your convenience and to emphasize the claim that Hyderabad & its development belongs to Andhra people.

    Hyderabad has been developed not just by Andhra People but all those who made Hyderabad their home. With the advent of IT, the growth has accelerated just like other indian metro cities. I am sure People like you will not hesitate to claim the east and west coast of USA belongs to Andhra as there are many Andhra people living there and they established IT companies, paid taxes and provided employment.


    I don't discriminate Andhra and Telangana people. For me an Andhra person, Telangana person and a Punjabi person are all the same. If some one is hurt, it hurts me too.

    Had Andhra people raised their objects to the changes in Nagarjuna sagar dam original plan, the nepotism at the secretariat (with 90% Andhra employees) in allocating funds and in providing employment opportunities, Andhra Pradesh couldn't have seen the Separate Telangana.....


    If Andhra people want Hyderabad, they are more than welcome to come and live in Hyderabad. No one can and should stop you from doing so. But claiming that Andhra people paid x amount of taxes, hence we should have access to x amount on spending in Andhra region is a ridiculous claim and it shows how shallow your thinking is from nationalistic point of view.

    The moral of the whole separate Telangana agitation is " AS YOU SOW, SO YOU REAP".

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  25. The Telangana society is fittingly jubilant at the moment, since it ultimately achieved its demand of the last six decades and came out of the clutches of exploitation, discrimination, betrayal and deception that went on in the name of a united state. The long and sad tale of Telangana appears to be coming to an end. However, even in this celebratory mood, most Telanganites conduct themselves in a restrained fashion, for more than one reason.

    The victory, if it may be called so, has come with a heavy, exorbitant price. Telangana lost its land, water, funds, public employment and educational opportunities due to the violation of a Gentlemen's Agreement, the basis of the merger of Telangana and Andhra in 1956.

    If anybody cares to calculate the loss suffered by two generations in public employment and diversion of rightful waters and funds, it would run into trillions of rupees. Added to the violation of agreements and constitutional provisions, there was the heavy repression of Telangana youth whenever they protested and asked for their fair share.

    In 1969, Telangana witnessed the first massive protests against the violation of safeguards and 370 students and youth were shot down by police in that movement spread over a little less than a year. Then there was another round of promises and betrayals from the Six Point Formula (1973) to the Presidential Order (1975) to G.O. 610 (1985).

    Ten years after the last betrayal the demand was raised again and culminated in the formation of the Telangana Rashtra Samithi in 2001. However, the saga of betrayals did not end. The electoral alliance between the Congress and the TRS, inclusion of Telangana in Congress election manifesto 2004, Common Minimum Program of the UPA, Presidential Address, and even the Union government's announcement of December 9, 2009 were all betrayed. Between 2009 and 2013, at least 1,100 students and youth have committed suicide feeling utter helplessness at the deceptive behaviour of state and Central powers that be. Thus today's sense of achievement is tinged with a drop of tear and blood.

    Further, the CWC resolution does not evoke much jubilation since it has at least three riders, which may turn counterproductive to Telangana's cause in the near and distant future. The first one is the ambiguity on the definite time frame with regard to the process of formation of a Telangana state. Once bitten by the December 9 debacle, an ordinary Telangana person is shy and not ready to gulp this promise without testing it.

    There is another clause of retaining Hyderabad as common capital for ten years. This kind of arrangement was not made in the history for any state. Even when the new states had smaller towns than many in coastal Andhra or Rayalaseema, the capitals were set up there. And also there is no clarity on the future administration of the city when it hosts the governments of two states. Many observers wonder whether will be a dirty game plan to separate Hyderabad from Telangana to make it a Union Territory.

    Equally important is the question of treating the Polavaram irrigation project as a national project. The proposed project on the Godavari is highly disputed and has been consistently opposed by the Telangana movement for the last 15 years. Displacing 300 villages and 300,000 tribals, the project is untenable on geographical, environmental, technical and ethical grounds. It is a project conceived to steal waters from Telangana's share and if only it is finalized with central funds before the state demerger, will it give fait accomplis right over the Godavari waters to the residuary state.

    There is no doubt that the genuine concerns of people of coastal Andhra and Rayalaseema, in terms of water resources, employment, access to Hyderabad state have to be addressed and settled amicably, but the Congress Working Committee resolution puts the cart before the horse, making announcements first and postponing the negotiations to a later date.

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  26. Telangana enuku ivvali. maa hydrabad ni maaku ivvandi mee telangana meeru theesuku pondi. Hyderabad lekapothay telangana em panikiradu. Hyderabad lekapothay telangana nu kukkalu kuda chudavu. maa hyderabad ni vidichi mee telangana ni pattu ku vellu evadiki ledu abyantaram.
    Ika vadu kcr gadu chepthadu Andhra rayalseema vallu hyd ni vidichi vellipomantadu . Ee hyd evaridi kcr gadi estataa. Hyd ni andaram kalisi nirminchukonnam. Hyd andari sottu. Idi marchipovaddu.

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  27. Very good discussion towards to to Telangana state, India

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  28. Telangaites lost their mind....... leave them for now...... lets fight and get the package ....... i don't think it is good to livi with them any more...... all together build financial hub (HYD) and now those looters and beggers looting it.... lets see how our a**l politicians do their job...
    now all the skill less people get the jobs in govt org. and run their state...good luck

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  29. What a stupid emotional article.Whoever has written it has fallen for the third rate approach of the idiotic sonia family which cannot work things out.Andrapradesh in its present form is a unwieldy state.it needs to be broken down to 2 parts for better administration.I think it makes sense as telangana and Seemandra.It also gives a chance that seemandra gets greater speed in development so also Telangana.It gives an opportunity to build a modern world class city in semandra which has wide open roads, proper sewage and water system, housing for rich,middle and lower class, plenty of schools/hospitals/playgrounds not the kind of claustrophoibic noisy polluted mosquito ridden cities like hyderabad,chennai or for that matter any metropolitan city.It is a disgrace the way we have built our country.With seemandra and Telangan we can start with new ideas, fresh ideas dumping the idiotic approach of crooked nehru family enterprise.enough of this non sense.

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    1. Why you think 2 parts sir?? YOU GUYS TELANGANA & COASTAL ANDHRA think you are the only people built Andhra Pradesh and decide the future of Rayalaseema. Either by dividing it or by acceding it to Andhra...
      WE DON'T WANT TO BE WITH THE F&^*%G TWO OF YOU REGIONS WE WANT A SEPARATE STATE 'THE GREATER RAYALASEEMA'.
      By the way Higher Education levels in Rayalaseema is higher than Andhra for more than 100 years. TSR, GVK, Magunta are from Nellore not your Andhra belt!!!

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  30. hey dear, you have put lots effort writing the article. How does the common capital city help andhra people? It wil help more to the hyderabad and indirectly telangana.

    And telangana people never give up their aspiration of separate state. Nobody has forgotten how badly they have screwed up jobs in government and private sectors and in water resources. If they were given fair share in first place they never raised this issue.

    They never treated telangana people also part of this state they should be given fair share in jobs, water, etc., and I bet you even if they agree now to proivde fair share that will not be fullfilled as it's their character, they will forget after few years, history shows clearly.. they have even burried thousands of go's that are violated 610 go or 6 point formula during the inquiry commission.

    To end this forever it's better to have separate states and capital cities. I know how hard it is digest for andhra people, but that's karma of their greedy.

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  31. even kcr told in assembly that they don't have skilled people so, jobs should be filled from other source........... how come now they cry that they didn't get job? now they all skill less people and drunken people get the jobs in govt. and run their state... have fun. I wish KCR should be CM for telangana.....

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  32. we never differentiated that there r telanganites and andhraites ... only these TG guys started discriminating ... my friend talks and says that in telugu sangham there are no telangan people...only andhrites there......i surprised we didn't even expect there are separate regions ... he comes and point see there r no telanga people...we thought we all from one state........

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  33. @SOME PEOOPLE WHO ARE SPEAKING ABOUT WATER FLOWING FROM FIELDS,,,I WILL GIVE A SMALL EXAMPLE IF ANY ONE STAY IN ANY RENT HOUSE FOR MORE THAN 15 YRS AS PER COURT THAT HOUSE WILL BELONG TO TENENTS NOT THE OWNERS.....IN THE SAME WAY HYD BELONGS TO ONE WHO DEVELOPED. THEN JOBS IF THEY HAVE MERIT THEY WILL GET JOBS IF NOT THEY WONT....WHAT A BIG DEAL

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  34. pani leni mangalodu pilli thala goriginattu, emi pani leka intha research chesi migatha valatho chadhivinchavu and valaki pani ledhani prove chedhamankunava?
    "But I can't take it for a second with the Telangana people claiming that they've built Hyderabad with " The sweat, The blood" of their ancestors." Who asked u to take it or don't take it?

    Some one asked y telanganites didn't ask their ministers and leaders, y development has not happened! Its because when people from coastal ruled over and CMs like YSR did monarchy kind of ruling, how can it happen! Even when NCBN ruled, most of the ministers developed their own districts and places selfishly!

    And someone was speaking of talent and being on top to get jobs in public and private sector, don't you know most jobs in great and corrupt India are because of recommendations, bribes, backdoor entries and partiality that he is from same caste or creed or region! If ppl from R.Seema or C.Andhra had real talent, why would most of them go to Karnataka or TN and join in private colleges for studying, shelling out lakhs for fee? If you had real talent, get top marks and join in local colleges as per merit. Mi lanti vallu cheyabatte, medicine ki NEET ani pettesi, all over India oke chettu kindha petaru!

    Lagadapati's Lanco or Murali Mohan's Jayabheri, etc... ivanni ela pyki vachao telidha?! Pedholla dagra cheap ga or bayapettesi konesi, enni kattaro miku telidha?!

    Malli 60% 40% enti boss? Telangana ki Anantpur n Kurnool tho patu Chittoor and/or Nellore kuda ichesthe aipothadhi! Becos ni division prakaram Telangana ki 9-2+2 = 9 districts, Andhra ki 9+4-2+2= 13 aithai! I have made it 10-12/11-11 share of districts! This is more democratic! Nellore kuda vasthe, Telangana ki oka coastal area and port katukune chance vasthadhi! And count 23 raledhu endhukante Hyd is excluded as common property. Will people and politicians from Anantpur, Kurnool, Chittor, Nellore accept this? What do u say?

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  35. dunne vaadide bhoomaa ?? telangana vallocchi mee andhraa anta dunni andhra ni kabja chesukovachchaa ??
    British vallu India ni develop chesaarani India vaalladaipoddaa ?? US lo Indians udyogaalakani velli US maade antara ?? US ni meere develop chesarantaremo ?

    appudu madras kelli "Mana madras" annaru, vella gottinchu kunnaru.
    ippudu ikkadaa ade jaruguddi. tara vaata meeru Seema lo capital pedataaru. konnallaki rayala seema vallu kooda mimmalni tanni tarimestaaru.

    Toorpu paakistaani vida deesi Bangaldesh chesindi mana India, mana Indira gandhi gaare.

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  36. If cheennai is developed by you and if you have rights then why dont you leave hyderabad and go to chennai and reclaim your rights ?

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  37. Be a roman when you are in Rome. but when you try to Rule Rome then you will be kicked on you ass.

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  38. dont give misconceptions to people ,wen u urself dont know anything abt it...read wat the src said:-States Reorganisation Commission (SRC) recommended that "the Telangana area is to constitute into a separate State, which may be known as the Hyderabad State with provision for its unification with Andhra after the general elections likely to be held in or about 1961 if by a two thirds majority the legislature of the residency Hyderabad State expresses itself in favor of such unification(para 386)".(unification of Telangana with Andhra, though desirable, should be based on a voluntary and willing association of the people and that it is primarily for the people of Telangana to take a decision about their future.)....
    THAT IS WHAT THE SRC TOLD,IT DID NOT JUST SIMPLY MERGE THE ANDHRA AND TELANGANA REGIONS...DUE TO IMPROPER LEADERSHIP AT THAT TIME THE FEELINGS OF TELANGANA PEOPLE ARE NOT PROPERLY REFLECTED BY THE PARLIAMENT...AND ALSO II WAS TOLD THAT ONLY IF THE TELANGANA PEOPLE ARE SATISFIESD WITH THE UNIFICATION....

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  39. Well said!! Great effort!! Hope people understand the facts. Appreciate your time. God bless Telugus!!

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  40. I wonder what reasons you have about the water stealing done by Andhra people? Perhaps you don't as you haven't addressed it in your myopic view...anyways after reading all your rant I feel we are better off without you people. Btw no one is telling you people to leave hyderabad so don't get your panties into a bunch

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    1. sir You are better without andhra since Telangana is now fully develped compared to andhra. People of Telangana must compare what it is today and what it was before amalgamation. Andhras comming to Telangana was British comming to I ndia and develpping many things like railways etc. I remember in 1968 my friend told me he sold his land in Telangana I asked him How many acres? he said 400 acres. I said you must have got lacks he said an acre is Rs.400/- I was shocked since that time any land was not less than50000 if it is dry a minimum of 2000/ today it is otherway round. If you see Srikrishna report In every area Telangana is far far better that is why you want separation. Frankly Britishers were taking money back to England but Andhras invested here developed the place here and lived here. None of them transformed money to invest in andhra. They though this is our state our country. One good thing happened to Andhra atleast now people will invest in Andhra and develop it.

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  49. Separate state has been announced (quite some time ago). I only wish that good and worthy people get jobs, specially govt jobs, I think a min IQ of 110 should be mandatory for job applicants and also a complete psychometric profile. otherwise I would have to wait in the line of a govt bank whilst the employee is busy talking with his friend over the phone rather than working, and similar sites in other govt institutes too...

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